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10-14-2024, 09:12 PM | #9461 |
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I disagree with the idea that "doing crazy shit with design" is good.
Crazy and different for the sake of different is stupid. Different because of a valid reason, sure. But different just to stand out and be different, no. |
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10-15-2024, 12:11 AM | #9462 | |
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Like fake grills on EVs… why??? |
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10-15-2024, 02:51 AM | #9463 | |
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The original concept was sold on a much too lofty price and some typical Musk style promises that never quite delivered, obviously many who plop down cash for one back then saw that as the appeal and accepted the controversial design as a trade-off, and bailed when those appealing points no longer exists once the truck is in production. For fake grills, I have a suspicion it is more for familiarity for public appeal. EVs can be anything technically, but psychology of a typical car buyer likely still see a 'face' in their cars, and without a grille there it can appear foreign, even frightening.
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That being said just because he’s usually full of shit doesn’t mean I will take credit away from what he’s actually done (and by him I mean a whole team of engineers etc). I personally think he single handedly popularized EVs (for better or worse depending on your views). Still today IMO Tesla offers the best EV experience. Maybe you don’t want that and that’s fine, but if you do… Tesla is the best from all the other EVs I’ve tried. Even the “full self driving” which I think is his biggest scam/vaporware is actually very impressive. They did a 30 day trial for everyone a few months back so I got to try it (I’m certainly not paying for it) and I was impressed. Would I let it actually drive me by itself? Fuck no! However what it can do is still pretty impressive. His hype is what makes it a let down. Quote:
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10-15-2024, 09:54 AM | #9466 |
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Cybertrucks looks are absolutely limited it's sales. While it's price, poor build quality, and kind of uselessness also don't help it, discounting it's looks as driving people away as well is silly.
Personally, I think the right way to do an EV is toake.it a duplicate of the ICE version. F150 Lightning is a decent example, it's an F150 with an EV powertrain, though admittedly they should have gone EVEN MORE that way so it would have received the two refreshes it's missed. BMW is doing this with the I40, i5, i7, and it's a great choice, make the EV just a powertrain swap of the normal vehicle, le enraging the platform to reduce costs. Plus then you don't end up with something dorky looking like most EVs. |
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10-15-2024, 10:17 AM | #9467 | |
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KBB said. “In fact, Cybertruck outsold every other available EV except for two – Tesla’s popular Model Y and Model 3.” https://www.forbes.com/sites/brookec...price-crashes/ Per Sawyer Merritt on X.com NEWS: The $100,000 Tesla Cybertruck (16,692 units) outsold the combined sales of all these EV pickup trucks in Q3: • Ford F-150 Lightning: 7,162 • Hummer EV: 4,305 • Rivian R1T: 3,817 • GMC Sierra EV: 387 |
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10-15-2024, 12:00 PM | #9469 | |
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Here is my thinking. EV trucks are not ready for actual truck guys. So the current offerings cater to people who just want a truck for fun, maybe some home depot runs, maybe tow a small boat to local ramps etc. They are also willing to spend $100k on one. Makes me think they want something ”cool” and by cool I mean something that stands out. Nothing does that more than the cybertruck. Maybe the hummer in second place. |
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10-15-2024, 02:39 PM | #9471 | |
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That said, outside of the sheer ugly.of them, I feel like they've lost their shock value already. It used to be people would see them and exclaim.how ugly they were. Now they're ugly but nobody cares. I know in like fond better ways to spend 100k. |
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The bed for me is realistically an open trunk for dirty stuff or tall stuff. It's for a new appliance, bags of mulch, a pallet of sod, etc. if I needed to haul a LOT of stuff, I'd put it in a trailer. My little Colorado hauled scoops of dirt and mulch in the back with ease. Even had the room for me to stand on the tailgate with a shovel to scoop it out. I don't need or want a 6+ foot bed. If I could buy a new Escalade EXT (preferably as a V model) I'd do it in a heartbeat. My comment about the CT being used as a regular car is that I haven't seen a single one getting lumber or mulch or anything at home depot. I haven't seen one pulling a trailer. I think a lot of the people buying them are just buying them for the shock and whatever. I think even more bought them thinking they could resell them for a profit. |
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Unless they are builders? kidding. Couldn't see myself in a pick up, those with rear seats don't seem to be around here but Ford is now pushing their Ranger in non stop ads with a female driving one oh and I see Isuzu too.
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I think truck are the better starting point for electric. A lot of utility and cost savings if you can charge at home each day. Plus EV is adding a lot of performance characteristics to trucks that make the fun. Hummer truck has 1000hp and the SUV has 850. They weigh almost 10000 lbs and gan do 0 to 60 in under 4s. That's crazy. They handle like poop because of the weight, but technology does a pretty good job hiding the weight. A current trend that could help offset costs is the vehicle to home power tech. If you've ever priced a whole home battery or generator system. Being able to use your cars battery is a big perk. |
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I would not rationalize the purchase of an EV based on saving half the cost of a permanently installed generator. If you already have the EV and it can supply 240V, then I would think about it. If you instead were going to buy a whole home battery system, I agree the EV battery probably has the same or greater capacity and using it instead makes sense. |
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