Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[M5Rick]

What's happening at BMW as far as EV's are concerned is not good.

[Murf the Surf]

This Tesla crash and fire happened about a week ago, I thought about posting the story of yet another vehicle fire that was very challenging to extinguish but I thought I'd put it on the back burner. Then this story comes out that the deceased was unable to get out of the vehicle as reported due to the electronic locks/doors. https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/she...a9a9927d5.html

[Murf the Surf]

I'm just listening to to talk radio and this comes on for discussion:

"State Farm, the largest auto and home insurance company in the U.S., has removed all electric vehicle (EV) chargers from its parking garages, citing concerns over fire risks. The decision, announced in late October and effective almost immediately after that, affects chargers at the company’s head office in Bloomington, Illinois; and at its hub locations across the country."

https://driving.ca/auto-news/driver-...20fire%20risks.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

This Tesla crash and fire happened about a week ago, I thought about posting the story of yet another vehicle fire that was very challenging to extinguish but I thought I'd put it on the back burner. Then this story comes out that the deceased was unable to get out of the vehicle as reported due to the electronic locks/doors. https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/she...a9a9927d5.html

This is the most concerning thing for me about ev ownership. A systems failure due to damage or fire that disables my ability to escape. They need to create a system that shatters the glass or something in a significant enough accident. As long as my car is sitting upright I could at least pop the roof panels off.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

This is the most concerning thing for me about ev ownership. A systems failure due to damage or fire that disables my ability to escape. They need to create a system that shatters the glass or something in a significant enough accident. As long as my car is sitting upright I could at least pop the roof panels off.

You could just pull the manual release right there on the left near where you control the windows.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by gblansten

You could just pull the manual release right there on the left near where you control the windows.

Yes mine has mechanical normal doors as far as I know. It's not full on electronic actuators.

[gblansten]

I know that many of you would choose a fiery death in a Tesla. But, here is the admittedly brutal and difficult manual release video that would save some of you.

[gblansten]

Rear manual release is a pull in the storage well on each side.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by gblansten

You could just pull the manual release right there on the left near where you control the windows.

I don't believe the victim was the owner of the car and possibly didn't know about this.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

I don't believe the victim was the owner of the car and possibly didn't know about this.

I'm just saying it is easy to pull the manual release.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

What's happening at BMW as far as EV's are concerned is not good.

The video was BMW centric which makes sense for this forum but it's pretty clear that the tides are shifting and not favourably for the EV market or manufacturers.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I'm just saying it is easy to pull the manual release.

Apparently not easy enough for the young lady who died.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I'm just saying it is easy to pull the manual release.

Seriously, you expect someone in the rear seat after a crash and the cabin is beginning to fill with toxic smoke, in a panic, to reach the Rubic's Cube manual door release? Lol. Sorry, but that is an utterly stupid and non-fail-safe design. Why can't EVs just have normal, cable operated, door pulls, both interior and exterior?

The front door release is not much better for a panic stricken driver or passenger. Both designs are completely stupid.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Apparently not easy enough for the young lady who died.

^ THIS ^

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Seriously, you expect someone in the rear seat after a crash and the cabin is beginning to fill with toxic smoke, in a panic, to reach the Rubic's Cube manual door release? Lol. Sorry, but that is an utterly stupid and non-fail-safe design. Why can't EVs just have normal, cable operated, door pulls, both interior and exterior?

The front door release is not much better for a panic stricken driver or passenger. Both designs are completely stupid.

We each have our anxiety/fear budget. I'm going to have to defer to you to cover this fear for the both of us.