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Not sure how I feel about this… ICE and EV cars have fundamentally different design principles if you want them to be best in their respective classes. The worst EVs for example are those that use an ICE-inspired chassis. Either they are going ICE-first and will just slap a battery back in or they’ll go EV-first and somehow shove an engine in. Seems a weird strategy.
That doesnt even get into the marketing complications. How will they position the different offerings? What comes first? What will be more expensive? What will be considered the ‘top model’? I would realistically expect them to simply offer a hybrid model, not both. Very strange. |
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And that’s many countries outside the US who are trying to reduce vehicular emissions. As example, base 911 is over $300,000 in Ireland where the, now PHEV, M5 is half that… just because it’s got low emissions for the WLTP cycle. 911 & M5 are similar money with taxes removed. I imagine BMW will stick to the model of a chassis to suit all powertrains and build the motors for them J.I.T. That way the customer decides.
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I think I belong in the middle of the consensus as well, which is that on the face of it another generation sounds wonderful, but the devil really is in the details.
So long as we are not going down the same road as the latest M5 I’m on board. |
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It convinced me that if the next M car was electric, it’s going to be a banger. They still need to fight all that weight, however, as my M4 handled much much better than the i4 M50. As a daily driver though, it’s clear why it outsells the M340i and M440i. It’s such a good car.
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