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      11-17-2024, 09:10 AM   #23
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No, actually it couldn’t. You draw a false equivalency.
No, I think you are. What you think is the “best” is your opinion.
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Had a whole thing typed out. Deleted it.

I've had some fun cars throughout my time driving. E46 M3 was the era that I started driving, and was the object of lust for 16 year old me.

I love my G82, hands down. Love the tech, love the way it drives, love the looks. I don't find it to be numb, even compared to my stripped down bugeye WRX.

No, it's not a BMW of years past. But in my opinion it shouldn't be. If you want one of those go buy one to restore and maintain.
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I have high hopes for the next M3. BMW cleaned house on their design team, and they simply cannot do worse than the current iteration so hope springs eternal in my case. I'm on the BMW buying sidelines until then, I'm enjoying my current car enough to last to 2028.
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I'll sum this up...

Current BMWs are ugly and most don't come with a manual transmission.

Boomer Joe.
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Basically how I feel about the buck tooth ridiculous style changes...
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All I can say my xm label makes the range rovers and GLS ‘ and Escalades I had in the past look and drive like toys compared the xm label I have now … that’s a driving machine . Would not trade it away for anything
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If i had a dollar for every one of these "BMW is going downhill" threads.... pretty sure these threads pop up multiple times a year every year.
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Plenty of older BMWs around to buy fix up and enjoy. Older cars are not inferior. They're visceral raw and imperfect. Things can also be retrofitted including nearly entire interiors. A lot of potential in a 20-40k car when you then have let's say 50k to spend restomodding it. Speed is cheap these days.

Obviously doesn't apply to folks who lease cars.
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If i had a dollar for every one of these "BMW is going downhill" threads.... pretty sure these threads pop up multiple times a year every year.
That's a bad sign.
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That's a bad sign.
Been a "bad sign" for probably the past decade and a half. Meanwhile BMW's been busy having the greatest sales years in its history and overtaking the crown for top selling luxury brand.

People will complain about anything and everything.
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Been a "bad sign" for probably the past decade and a half. Meanwhile BMW's been busy having the greatest sales years in its history and overtaking the crown for top selling luxury brand.

People will complain about anything and everything.
True, and the apparent "quality" has improved too , but none of the cars and SUVs they offer these days are appealing in any way to a lot of us Bimmer aficionados (Boomers) from the 1970s and 1980s before BMW got cool (i.e. post late 1980s YUPPIES).
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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