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      Yesterday, 03:03 PM   #23
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it honestly sounds like you struck a nerve and that maybe she knows the reviews aren't legit lol.

any normal finance person in that role would have just smiled and had you sign the papers.. and moved on to the next customer to try and upsell random stuff.
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Perfect example of don't take things personally. She was probably hurting for sales and took her frustrations out on you. She wouldda done the same thing to anyone else. Good on you for taking the high road.
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When I purchased my X5 a few months ago I was able to complete the entire purchasing process and finance dance over the phone, along with Docusign for the docs. All of the price negotiation was done via text using my Google Voice burner phone number. The dealership even dropped the car off at my house the next day because I told them driving across the Phoenix metro was too far for me!

I will say it was a glorious experience over all and when the finance mgr is trying to sell you extended warranties they don't have the same mojo when your on the phone as opposed to in person. Overall recommend purchasing this way.

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Not what i call customer service.
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Unfortunately, I think that philosophy has waned...
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BMW Seattle? Can't say I'm surprised.

I would have canceled the deal right then and there, but I'm petty.
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BMW Seattle? Can't say I'm surprised.

I would have canceled the deal right then and there, but I'm petty.
Like I said, the sales guy was awesome and cool, the deal was sweet (~8% off MSRP for fully loaded 2024 X3MC), so - nah, wouldn't worth to cancel the deal just because of some lady was not in the mood.
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Don’t ever apologize to a dealer - they’re not your friends. Be firm, speak your mind, and remember… *YOU* are paying them and not the other way around; don’t feel bad reminding them of that.
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Don’t ever apologize to a dealer - they’re not your friends. Be firm, speak your mind, and remember… *YOU* are paying them and not the other way around; don’t feel bad reminding them of that.
I mean... I agree with being firm, and that’s what I did—they didn’t sell me anything I didn’t want. I agree they’re not friends, but we’re all people with emotions and stuff, and if there’s a way to move forward with fewer negative emotions (and if the price for that is me apologizing), I’d rather take that path. After all, karma’s a bitch
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Be glad you haven't had the pleasure of dealing with Porsche of Bellevue...
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There are, of course, exceptions, but I've experienced some form of attempted chiseling with every dealer (new and used) car I've purchased. They operate in their own ethical world. They will say and do anything they think they can get away with, and after you leave, give each other high fives if it worked.

He died (disappeared, actually) years before there were cars, but legendary American cynic Ambrose Bierce defined "conscience" as "that little voice in your head that tells you somebody might be watching." I think he nailed it.
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As a pleasant surprise - I found rubber mats in the trunk! Thanks, SA, we didn't even talk about it!
IMHO, this was a case of "good cop - bad cop" and your salesman should have given you a box of condoms along with the rubber mats as he knew you were going to need protection for your meeting with his finance manager!!!
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Thanks for sharing that video which was spot on for what NervoS experienced, it was one of many classic scenes from Fargo!
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The previous mega dealer group owners of the dealership where I'd worked since 1976 brought in a new GM from another store. He was young and aspiring to greatness. He was recommended after "success" in finance—which is the normal pathway into management at dealerships. He liked to brag about how good he was, at one point telling us how much he made off of an 80-year-old woman buying a Honda. The amount was beyond belief (lying) but the way he talked about it was worse. "I took her head off!!!" he bragged.

I am so glad to be retired having done every job in the dealership including GM—but not finance. I don't have enough larceny in my heart to do that one. And those I hired for that position would have been fired for doing what this guy did. Although in the large dealership groups, that's praiseworthy performance and shown as an example of how to do it. Sad. Watch yourself.
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Finance person also takes a check from you, even if it is 100% in cash, so you have to. Plus they are responsible for all the paperwork.

As to financing, that could be another reason, why she wasn't particularly happy. The thing is: if you buy the car for cash, you can get only 1000 off as loyalty discount, but with financing you get 1500 off. So, I did finance with them.... For $7500 (and the rest I paid as a down payment). Obviously, they won't get much from it, well, sorry (I guess!). I'll pay off these 7500 as soon as myBMW app gets updated info about the loan and be done with it.
In which case, the bank will reclaim that 'commission' bonus , so the dealership will get nothing for the financing agreement. Good ending.
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