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      12-30-2013, 10:46 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by kmarei View Post
That's because now its a pissing contest between the 3 premium manufactures about who sells more

Doesn't matter if you're making good cars or not.
It doesn't matter that BMW is now imitating audi (a4/a5 split, using Sline (M badge on every model) as a marketing trick, a5 sport back is behind grand coupe etc )
You're just shifting boxes, hence the "product" usage

Sad but true
BMW is not catering to its old school fan base
It's now trying to cater to the Chinese market, and sell more cars (fwd? Wtf!)
And before you tell me it's a buisness, it's natural to try to sell more cars
Well how come for the past 30 years or so, no one came up with the bright idea to stick M badges on every model, and to stick with the rwd platform, and not make seventeen different models of the same line
4 series brand coupe : 5 door hatchback of a 2 door version of a 4 door sedan?

Please don't sell us the line that you're making exciting "products"
You're selling out very rule in the BMW rule book, one by one
No M SUV, no diesel M, no turbo charging M, no fwd etc
I will reply in due course but this is no longer 2000.
The landscape for the entire automobile industry has progressed extensively.
Either manufacturers adapt? or disappear.
Scott

You can adapt and survive while sticking to the roots that have kept
You alive for the past 100 years.

I don't mind BMW making a sedan, coupe, convertible, wagon, GT and GC of the same series since you need to expand your market share and compete. My problem comes when you take the M brand and you dilute it as part of your strategy. At this pace the ///M brand will not be the same it was 10 years ago. When I picked up my M3 at the Welt and visited the M Studio, talking about the M3 was like talking about Jordan at its prime. The respect for the car was astonishing. I fear in a few years it'll just be another car BMW makes. The gap between the M and the base models shrinks every year. I do not mind a 335 MSport like the E90 series had. My problem comes when you create an M3 using a standard 3-series N54/N55 engine with some upgrades and call it an M engine and then on top of that create vehicles like a M135, M235, etc and slap the M badge to its name. A naming like the 135is and 335is would have been more suitable. Perhaps BMW itself has lost respect for the most important letter in the world and now we see the results of that. Listen to your fan base before it's too late. If we express our opinion with so much emphasis is because we care.

You can expand and make as many BMW models are you think you might need, but when it comes to the M Brand please keep in mind a few of us still hold it as the holy grail and we would like it to stay that way.
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