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      08-21-2020, 01:56 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier View Post
Originally Posted by Poochie View Post
As far as "pacing" goes; I have and had the best and most effective radar detectors money can buy, yet I've notice the cops just sit on the side of the highway, watch you drive by and "visually estimate" your speed, then lie that they confirmed it with a radar reading.

Rendering a radar detector useless.. Which I don't believe is fair but I guess I can't win that argument

Happen to me several times before, where I looked at the cop dead in eyes, knowing very well he didn't clock me on radar/laser but it didn't matter anyways because real cops are not like on TV, they are not above lying, they do or say what they gotta say to sway a situation in their favor. That's a fact.
My PSA for this thread:

NJ State Troopers usually use Laser in roadside speed enforcement. You'll see them shooting the laser like a gun resting on the door.

I often see them pull to the shoulder, quickly open their door, rest their right elbow on the open window While shooting the laser rearward while still sitting in the driver's seat. They'll surely find a target in moments and they're off to the chase.

When you consider NJ is the most congested state in the country, it makes sense that they'd use laser.

All this laser enforcement is part of the reason I haven't run a front plate since 1994. They're trained to shoot at the flat-reflective plate. It's more difficult to capture speed using laser on a car without a front plate.

Also, NJ State Troopers employ unmarked cars (usually Dodge Chargers, but sometimes Camaros (especially further south)) for pacing and finding people salmoning through traffic. I notice that the area of the NJ Turnpike with separate truck-bus lanes gets much more enforcement than the car lane on weekday mornings.
Based on the OP's description of events, It seems like he was paced. Also, in drives to Jersey, my radar/laser almost never goes off, as I pass the highway police. Further out in CT and in rural areas, I do get alerts constantly.

I have one of the best radar detectors out there; a Escort Max 360, linked with an active 4G connection, tether Waze, that I send in once a year to get calibrated. Trust me, I'm positive it's functions properly.

I do know for a fact that NY state police and the TBTA bridge police, just sit on the side of highway and "visually estimate" your speed, as you pass them, which is fancy way of saying they guessed it.

I tried contesting a summons, based sole on a "visual estimation" before and I was told that cops are trained to use their superpowers, to be able estimate speed, by plus or minus 5mph and the violations was upheld.

Doesn't matter anyways because to solidify their case, they just lie and say they verified your speed with laser or radar anyways. Anyone that believe that police are above bending the truth, let me know, I have a bridge to sell you.

I'm not on a crusade against highway cops, I know they a necessary tool in reducing fatal highway collisions but I'm not a fan of how the game is always skewed in their favor, level the playing feel and keep it honest, instead of the current guilty until/if you're proven innocent..