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Originally Posted by RonronEG

The fact that the doctors ran the full gamut of tests and didn't find any abnormalities is all the confirmation you need that this is a result of old age.

Say the vaccine was the culprit- what did it do? Did it damage the vasculature in his lower body? Cause swelling along the spine weakening his leg strength? Caused plaque build up in the brain limiting his balance and motor control? The tests would've shown signs of this and you've confirmed 2x the tests were pristine.

What's troubling to me is that when people blindly blame the vaccine, they completely abandon not just science but all reality. You're posturing that the vaccine may have caused him to fall without any measurable or observable mechanism - that sounds like absolute magic.

Let me clarify- When the JJ was causing people to die the tests showed the blood clots. Doctors could see the platelete count abnormalities in blood work and observe the clots in imaging. They had evidence and eventually linked it to the specific vaccine. You don't have that.

Yeah it sucks getting old and seeing people you care about get hurt, age and, eventually die. Yeah it can be traumatic, yes it makes you think about your eventual demise. Yeah it'd be great if we could blame something else and believe we're always going to be ok. Unfortunately that's not the case. There are better ways to deal with it than abandoning reality chasing this vaccine unicorn.

I appreciate your response but it's always the same for vehement obeyers of authority, I'm not assuming it's the vax, it's only a possibility, but I find it ridiculous that ppl can unequivocally say that it's not, refuse to ask any logical questions -which is the very essence of science- while by the same token accuse the person of being some conspirator/anti-vaxxer, whatever that silly blanket term is supposed to mean. Again, I'm NOT saying that it's most likely/probable, but merely it's possible and that is quite clear, big difference, and added to that if it was simply old age, you'd think all those doctors would say something to that effect but they just gave him a laughable "I dunno what the heck it is", like a scene outta Seinfeld when George visited that dr - that is a fact they did not say it's due to old age when that could've/should've been the easy answer/out for them. If it happened to your loved one, I would assume you would be going everywhere trying to figure out what the heck could be the cause(s).