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Originally Posted by rad doc
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All systems have positive and negative attributes. I'm curious why you find C4 so superior. Would you elaborate?
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Configurable keypads with engraved buttons that are backlit
Zigbee Pro for meshing and continued adding of system components
Their touchscreens are sweet
Built in music services are over a dozen... not 2
Excellent audio video control
App is sweet. OS3 is a killer interface
Strong 3rd party component integration, HDMI matrixes, tv's, avrs, blinds, irrigation, cameras etc
Wireless motion sensors that are the size of a thumb which can be placed in the perfect location for sensing motion
As an example, my programmer installed a wireless motion sensor at my front door. Now if someone approaches, I get an alert, my tv switches to the entrance cam view and a snapshot gets emailed to me, excellent for letting me know when the Amazon package has arrived or if I want to answer the knock on the door from a salesman
Again I'm not knocking Loxone, I'm sure it's great for what it is and what it costs.... it's got its place but let's be real, it's not on the same level as Control4 or Crestron. Without really good a/v control, it can't be.
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What you're describing is a great control system. While I probably prefer Savant over C4, but they're both excellent systems that have different design goals than Loxone. Saying Loxone "is not on the same level" as those systems is akin to saying an M3 isn't on the same level as a Jeep Rubicon because the M3 can't go off road or cross a stream. Loxone isn't trying to aggregate third party devices into a single interface. Loxone is focused on bringing intelligence or "smarts" to the critical systems of the home. In this regard you might say C4 and Savant aren't "on the same level" as Loxone.
I should have foreseen people running competing systems in their home would trash everything else as being sub-par.
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Nah, thats BS. Not bashing anything because its not in my house. I dont currently have Savant or Crestron but they make great products. However, you are the one that initially said, "Call me biased, but I genuinely believe Loxone is providing an experience at least a generation ahead of every other smart home (aka: automation) system available." Followed by a bunch of marketing quotes.
So a generation ahead of what? Certainly not user interface and a/v distribution. Lets be honest, Loxone may have a unique approach to lighting and hvac but is severely lacking in many other areas, areas I have repeatedly mentioned but you have not addressed at all. Again, why I see a Loxone user looking to install C4 along side it.
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To state it broadly, Loxone is a generation ahead in making your home smarter. This is the point I've been detailing in this thread.
Yes, I wouldn't use Loxone to run a centralized/distributed video system. Just like I wouldn't drive an M3 on a trail in the forest. If we're going to use a centralized video system as the standard then running a Crestron DM system is my pick, but I do like using RTi control with Just Add Power distribution components.
As a veteran in this industry, when I personally think "Smart Home" Loxone is most capable system. What you're describing are traditional control systems where Loxone isn't nearly as capable at those tasks. Like I've said earlier... The best tool for the job depends on what you're trying to accomplish.
Question for everyone: how do you define a "smart home?"