And since we are on the subject of GYM TALK if you are new to whole working out thing, please stay the hell away from machines. I see way too many new guys on the machines and bad habits they develop on the machines stay with them forever.
For new comers I strongly suggest/recommend compound movements only. I see too many people trying to do 90 lbs on the preacher curl machine with backs twisted in all different directions and no idea of form.
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