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      04-18-2019, 11:23 AM   #27
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The Accord is Passat sized. You could compare the Jetta to the Civic Si to keep it fair. The Civic drives great but is eye bleedingly ugly inside and out and there's no hiding that it's a 1.5L engine with a good amount of lag.

The Accord is a great car with a wildly better design, inside and out than the poor Civic. But the Civic is larger than the Jetta (and an F30) so the Accord is quite a bit larger.
I thought we were looking for a 3 Series alternative with MT, as that is where the MT was most recently dropped. The CandD review is quite encouraging for enjoyable DD usage!
The Accord is still a good bit larger than the G20, but at least it uses a detuned Civic Type R motor, not the Civic Si lump.

I left BMW because of the lack of a manual in the F31, went to a GTI and can't say I've missed BMW since. Manuals are fun and it's stupid of BMW to move away from them except for the M cars. Oops, really just M Car. Or M Car and a half, M2 and M3 Pure.