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      08-25-2022, 12:25 PM   #129
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Originally Posted by dradernh View Post
Indeed.

I read her bio recently, and the parts about her upbringing and early family life were fairly hair-raising.
I read about that too, and that's sad. I also know of other people (celebrities too) who had a similar upbringing but didn't end up like her.

I know it's extremely hard to rise up and out of that kind of upbringing and environment...but that doesn't mean we continue to make excuses for them. Everyone bears responsibility for themselves and imo society is forgetting that. Doesn't mean I'm not sympathetic - there's a difference.
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