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Originally Posted by jandref321
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Originally Posted by nachob
Nope!
Mercedes has experience making rugged offroad cars not so much BMW. Their cars are fragile, high maintenance, overly complicated. I doubt they could execute a pickup correctly unless they partnered with someone for development.
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This is true, I suppose it would depend on the target audience. A few questions:
1) Would this be a performance road car the likes of the X5M or an actual luxury utility vehicle?
2) Has BMW ever had an actual locking t-case/diff setup for real 4WD?
3) Where would costs for R&D take us? A new F-150 Raptor will run you $60-75k...A new X5 starts around there...This would easily be a six figure truck and no one who wants a truck for the utility purpose will pay that.
I sold my E46 M3 a while back because I was moving too much equipment around and needed a truck. I bought a new Toyota Tacoma. I was extremely displeased because it lacked performance, technology, and fuel economy. I traded and bought a used X5 that was 6 years older and 1000lbs heavier. The X5 was way cheaper, had more horsepower, better fuel mileage, better handling, more technology, better ground clearance, and was more comfortable. EDIT: The X5 also had negligible towing spec differences. If BMW can bring these things to a truck I would buy it, but they would need a good price point. |
I will have to disagree with you on a few points.
1) technology wise: my 13 F150 fx4 has heated cooled seats, rear cam, remote start, nav, Bluetooth, and it support multiple phones plugged in and multiple Bluetooth attachments, 120v plug. For me to update the nave I simply plug in a sd card. If you ask me the F150 has same if not more technology.
2) Fuel mileage: my past e90 averaged 13-14 mpg based on the 40k miles I drive it(includes 6.0 mpg on track days). The x5 50 has averaged 13.4 over the 55k miles it has been driven so far. My F150(302 coyote v8) has averaged 14.4 over 65k and it has a level and 305/50/20's and it tows a 12' enclosed trailer at times . I call that a win for the truck.
3) Performance: that's easy, a pickup truck will never out perform a BMW SAV. I have upgraded my brakes and have a fox 2.0 suspension which helps but it is still a 6k truck designed to haul shit loads.
4) Luxury: the x5 wins but full leather in the F150 is not bad. The supercrew has tons of space and my kids prefer the F150 on road trips compared to the x5.
Maybe the F150 is nicer than the Toyota or I have a better trim package but I do not compare my Ford to my BMW's. Completely different vehicles for different uses.